Today I’d like to take a poll.
It will be a completely non-scientific, generally meaningless, relatively pointless poll, based upon what you, the voters, simply think is the most bad-ass feat of the day.
Here’s the setup… Today I received videos from two different Outlaw athletes that made me have to stop in my tracks, and re-confirm that the corresponding numbers were accurate. The athletes confirmed their exploits, and this left me with a conundrum: I simply couldn’t decide which one was more difficult.
Since I couldn’t come to a personal consensus, I’ll leave it up to you guys to decide this one. Who gets the Outlaw “grande cajones” award today?
Here’s your choices…
This is a perfect example of Daniel Tyminski being Daniel Tyminski. He told me he was bored today, so he wanted to see how many times he could Power Snatch 225#. He just so happened to turn the video camera on, and voilà; magic happens. Side note: if you believe the 1RM calculator (which I don’t), this would give him a 270# POWER Snatch.
Daniel Tyminski – 7 Touch-and-Go Power Snatches @ 225#:
As far as I know, Phillip Kniep’s 340# High-Hang Clean + Jerk, was the biggest lift we had by 25#. That’s including all the big boys, who all seemed to stall out at the 315# mark. What’s most impressive about this lift IMO, is the Jerk. Phil spends over 10 seconds with the bar in the rack position, with 340# sitting on his chest, then somehow has enough reactive force left in his hips to make the Jerk look very “Ilya-esque”.
1) 20 minutes to establish a 1RM Snatch.
2) 20 minutes to establish a 1RM Clean and Jerk.
Front Squats: 1X5 @ 70%, 1X5 @ 75%, 1X3 @ 80%, 1X3 @ 85%, 3X2 @ 90% – rest 1-2 minutes.
9 KB Thrusters 24/16kg
18 KB Thrusters 24/16kg
9 KB Thrusters 24/16kg
Notes: KB Thrusters are performed with a KB in each hand. K2E (knees-to-elbows) MUST finish with the knees making full contact with the elbows. Anything less is a no-rep.
That’s a ton of weight in the C&J but gotta say the touch and Go power snatch was impressive
Only reason I don’t like Dan’s is cuz he pauses at his hips between each rep and then makes a deliberate bounce off the floor (outstanding effort none the less). Correct me if I’m wrong but video of khalipa and hendel doing 225 shows them being fluid with the bar, even tho spencer does squat snatches.
No pause and no deliberate bounce (just a tap lol), it would be one of the best outlaw lifts ever.
Phil’s lift. Only cos he’s probably not as annoying as Tyminski.
gotta go with the C&J
Phil actually missed at 335# but decided to go up to 340#
Tyminski’s powering snatching 225 x 7 is more impressive. I’d have given it to Phil if he had push jerked it…and I’m bitter that he’s in the NC with me at regionals.
Both of these are the good kind of nasty, but the 340 high hang c&j is DISGUSTING. Phillip K. gets my vote.
On a different note, does anyone else have torn up hands from KB snatches, C2B pull-ups and bar muscle ups? K2E are gonna SUCK.
My hands were wrecked.
Tyminski – always love a good Snatch. Today I said “I don’t have a problem getting it up, I just have a problem with the Jerk.” Lulz
That’s a tough one… I see why there is a poll. I was going to say Phil because that is fuckin huge but I love to pooh pooh on 1rm calculators also, so Dan by a hair..
C&J ! Go Phil…
Dan used straps, still impressive though!?
Both mighty impressive. Its a clear choice in my eyes though. The snatches. It’s more “crossfitty” … New word. Suck it up.
does that new word come with a dental dam?
Dan’s snatches were badass. Seeing that a few weeks ago he was only full snatching 102 kilos for 3 in Sydney. Phil’s C&K was still monster though… damn!
Phil’s lift, hands down
Clean & Jerk and by the way I’m still dying to see your second installment of the loading phase write up. I need it in my life haha
My third day of following TOW and my hands are sweating and my stomach is churning as I write down the workout….this stuff ain’t for sissies! Geez!
I vote Phil’s C&J
High-hang for sure! although Daniel’s touch an go power snatches are pretty damn impressive, its a 340# FREAKING HIGH-HANG!! some guys cant even clean and jerk 340# from the ground. thats some SERIOUS hip power and speed!
These wods and program’s are bad ass , but for me the volume is to high , how would you scale it for a intermediate ?
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Yes the volume is high but its manageable for an intermediate if you really want it. You have to be dedicated to rest/recovery/mobility EVERY day! Nutrition, sleep, stretching, ice baths, salt baths, foam rollers, lacrosse balls…. EVERY day. Everyone told me I was overtraining and at times I thought I was. I would think, dam there is no way I will be able to train tomorrow but after some rehab and a good night sleep I did it. I continually get stronger and stay injury free but its a huge commitment. In the beginning i would maybe increase some of the rest or skip/mod conditioning on days when my body was wrecked, you still need to be smart. You either commit to follow outlaw or settle for less and get less results… Your choice
I’m old, so sometimes the volume gets too much for me to recover adequately from. I find it’s the wods that take the most out of me, so if I’m feeling beat, that’s where I cut back. I’ll still try to get the main movements in. Like if I skip a wod that included pull ups, I’ll at least try to get in a couple sets (not for time). I always get the weightlifting in though. It’s the core of the program and easier to recover from.
I vote for the clean and jerk, because it was from the high hang, not the floor.
Boomsauce’s bar bouncing snatches by just the tip FTW.
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The 340 high hang is bad ass and I was in awe watching the vid cause he made it look easy. But for our “sport” it’s a easy decision, to string together 7 ub snatches with 225 is really impressive. For a lot of crossfitters a 225 snatch is a huge lift. For Olympic weight lifters a 340 c&j is still big but not as impressive. Now a double or triple with anything close to 340 would walk away with my vote…
Both are pretty impressive but I would lean towards the clean and jerk.
The reason is because Daniel is using straps.
Straps make touch and go or high hang for that matter way easier. The guy from the Crossfit seminar staff did 8 touch and go with no straps. That’s really tough on your grip.
Now that extra time in the rack position is very ruff especially when he adjust his hands by bouncing the weight.
Just my opinion but both are pretty sick!
My vote goes to the C&J.
1. Snatch – 95kg
2. C&J – 125kg (clean 130)
FS: done of 150kg
Vote for C+J
1) off 335
1) off 315
Equally impressive feats. But I must say the C&J takes the “badass of the day” by just a hair in my opinion.
lost one of the KB’s overhead by accident during the set of 18. Should have been unbroken other than that. I think i paced the rows too much. Still all around 2 mins per row =( and I haven’t done knees to elbows since before reebok made crappy weightlifting shoes.
lifting + extra shit later today.
225 snatch- attmepted 245 and it just wasn’t high enough.
275 clean and jerk- missed 290 clean x2. My wrist is bothering me but i was pulling it really high. next time I’m hitting this for sure.
front squats off 305
11.4- 140 reps. Hit this at like 80% effort until the last couple mins still a 20 rep PR from last year when i tried it. Just tired from the week.
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1. 120 (PR from last week)
2. 160 (5# PR for the jerk)
1. Off of 175 no misses
Stared at the kb way too much instead of just picking them up. 🙁
Snatch 225 10# pr
Clean & jerk 265 10#pr clean 275
FS off 295
Conditioning 7:44 couldn’t lock out last kb thruster on set of 18 so had to put it down on 17
Super fast session
Snatch 100kg missed 105, 105, 106, 106 102.5
Clean and jerk 135kg with press out missed 140 twice
Only time for 5 squats @ 70% of 160kg
Vote goes for Phil based off film quality.
Whole screen > black bars
Snatch 195. I want 200 already.
C&j up to 245. Missed 255 and 265
Fs off 315 all done
Unbroken. First time this week I felt satisfied with cond. effort
Wanted more attempts with snatch but have meet to schedule classes for college soon
FS off of 270
Snatch – 250 PR
Clean and Jerk – 295 (jumped from 295 to 320 to attempt PR and was not happening)
Front Squat done off of 390
Conditioning: the gym’s wod
1) thanks to outlaw I have PR’d in the snatch once a month for the past 3 months and went up on C&J 15 pounds in the last 3 months
2) all i want to do is the oly lifting now
1) 45kg – 100lbs pb
2) 72.5kg – 160lbs pb
Really not very strong at all, Need alot of strength work for the legs and posterior chain. Looking forward to sharing future pbs with you guys
Snatch – 205
C&J – 255
FS – Off 300
Conditioning – 95 BB thrusters (don’t have two KB)
1X5 @ 70%, 150
1X5 @ 75%, 165
1X3 @ 80%, 175
1X3 @ 85%, 185
3X2 @ 90%, 195
8:04 w/ 2 min double unders as sub for rowing
Phils lift-the c+j wins in my opinion
clean and jerk- 175 (5# PR)
clean only- 180# (10# PR)
front squats- done off 195
135, 145, 155, 165, 175
cond- 10:24 with a weird mod for k2e
“Grand Cajone’s” Award:
Hi-Hang Clean + Jerk
-both below my last set of hang versions this week, I need to un-fuck my technique.
1) Off 255
*95# bb thrusters/50cal AirDyne
1) 185 (struggle was tough today, tried 205 and missed but it felt good, so I went for PR at 225, so close but missed 5 times)
2) 245 (couldn’t even clean 265)
11:16 (18KB Thrusters broken way too much)
Here’s a video of my Snatch PR today. Been following Outlaw since March 2012. A year ago my 1RM Snatch was 155#… Today I hit 210# and missed 220# twice just barely. Sorry I have no idea how to post video due to being computer illiterate, so I just posted the link.
Second video is a 275# Clean, failed the Jerk, but still a 10# PR on Clean. Just before this lift I hit a 260# Clean & Jerk which is a 5# PR on the C&J. A year ago my 1RM was 205#…. I’ve come a long way, thank you rudy! Also criticisms are welcome, I’m looking to improve in any way I can, wish I had taken a side view of the video… Let me know what you guys think. I wanna get to 225# Snatch and 300# Clean & Jerk by the end of the open.
Great lifts, but you arm bend in both lifts pretty significantly. Spencer posted about this awhile ago and it takes away a lot of the leverage that you have. Try not to allow arm bend until full extension of the hips and shrug. Also on the snatch you jump slightly forward which is mostly likely from allowing the bar to get away from your body (obviously i dont know for sure because its a front angle). Keep it in close though
Yea i have a MAJOR issue with arm bend, ill read Spencers article. I’ve tried to keep them straight but when i get heavy it all goes out the window.. as far as the jump forward i felt myself swing the bar out away from me (moreso than usual) i think that was also a product of me attempting a weight id never tried before and my technique suffered from it. thanks for the tips man ill keep drilling technique and try to watch those two things specifically for awhile n see where it takes me.
1) 115, 125, 135, 145, 155, 165, 175, 185(f), 185(f), 185(f)
2) 135, 150, 165, 180, 195, 210, 225, 250
snatch – match PR
c&j – 15# PR (thought i was loading the bar up with 240 for a 5# PR, but this was a happy accident after i checked the weight)
front squat off 290
1×5@205, 1×5@215, 1×3@230, 1×3@245, 3×2@260
I vote for the jerk
Still think Danny is just swell though
USAW course today no time for any of this Crossfit nonsense
clean and jerk 120kg
Front squat based of 155kg all felt really strong. Hope to test max soon
7.16 rows were pretty slow really other then that felt alright…
Snatch – 255, put 270 behind me twice, then missed 280 once. Pr is 275
C&J – 295. This was a mess. PR is 325
7:41. Good one.
C). Off 325
Snatch: 145, 5 pound PR
C+J: 165, crappy lockout, not a PR, and my Jerk sucks. Been stuck at 170 for 6 months because of the jerk.
Front Squats off of 210, no misses. Went up on the doubles.
Conditioning: 9:11 rx’d.
7 tng reps! Way harder last one was shit and I’m sure there’s alot of bounce in there. But still awesome I might be able to do that with a clean lol.
snatch 180 5#PR, ugly but i got it
clean and jerk 215 10#PR
and my vote goes to the snatch. id like to be able to do that someday
NOT EVEN CLOSE – Power snatches win. High hang clean and jerk isn’t that much different than a full c & j, for some its easier if you have trouble getting in good position off the floor. Its a big 1RM, but that’s what it is,just a strong 1RM thats 30lbs less than Froning. 7 power snatches takes more guts and the dig to hang on to the bar = not even close, the snatches.
Tweaked shoulder and first time attempting these.
2) off 210
Cond. sore shoulder so did Annie
1) 205# (5# off of PR)
2) 245# (10# off PR)
Based off of 280# (back not fully recovered)
7:05 (all unbroken)
Clean and jerk: 295
1) missed 145# again
2) New PR of 175# 🙂
Done based off 205#
I vote for the Snatch, hands down.
1. 125 (+5 PR)
2. 155 (-10, paaaaainful arms today. fml)
Strength: Front Squats
150-160-170-180-190 (no misses)
Snatch – 185 then jumped to 205, missed 3 times.
C&J – 245 then jumped to 280, missed 3 times. was under it, couldn’t maintain back
CND- 8:12 … first time working with 2 kettlebells
1) 135#,140#,145#,150#(F)x5 – I couldn’t lock out.
2) 145#, 155#, 165#, 175#(F), 175#, 180#, 185(J-F)x2
Front sq : off 200# ( no miss)
used 35#DB for KB
K2E – back yard
Thruster&Row – inside garage (2 doors between back yard and garage)
1. 133 (Match PR, got 138 overhead twice, lost it forward both times)
2. 153 happy with this today, this is good for me.
Strength: Front Squats
Str off 335
30 min airdyne session
20 min z2 10 min z1
Snatch- 245. Wasn’t feeling it
F squat- based 295- 206.5, 221.5, 236, 250, 265
Clean and Jerk 135kg
Front squats off of 150kg
10:10 all unbroken except once on the 18 kb thrusters
Had a rough weekend, didn’t expect much today…
1) skipped, was warming up and not feeling it….
2) 255,265,275(-5lb pr), jumped to 285 caught a little out front and reset front rack but couldn’t stand it up. Tried again and ended up on my ass. Called it done (no jerks)
Front sq : off 315
First set at 285 I ended up lowering it right down to the pins and bailed, then 285×2,285×1
Skipped, body was hurting…
MFS 6/7/5 pissed off horse shit day… Can’t wait till the next WOD!
1) 70 kg (2.5 off PB)
2) 90 (5 off PB)
Squats – Done (Based off 117.5 kg)
1) 104kg (2kg PR)
2) 127.5kg (cleaned 132.5 twice but just missed jerk on both)
3) 100, 107.5, 115, 122.5, 130kg (off 142.5 with a little rounding up)
9/9, slow setup and 1.53 first row, 11/7 & 9/9, slower 2nd row 1.58, 9/9
Both rows too slow as were the interchanges to rower.
I have to go with Kniep’s lift. I’ve seen video of Spencer Hendel doing something similar to what BoomSauce did in his video, here. There just aren’t many crossfitters out there would could C&J 345# from the high-hang.
Fuck sake!! felt like shit today… FUCK!
Based off of 142.5kg
Failed 2nd rep 2nd to last set, Failed last set. FUCK!
So tough, gotta go with the C&J. Both these videos are nothing less than totally inspirational.
based off of 165- it was super easy… I should probably PR soon
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Resting a shoulder injury
Front Squats: 235/250/265/280/300
Conditioning: 9:22 RX